Gurdjieff International Review
Discussion on "Good and Evil"
with A. R. Orage
November 12th  Part 2 of 3
Alan Brown: I remember once we were given three stages of morals, and eventually right and wrong. These weren't mentioned last week except when it was said that until we have objective conscience we have no sense of good and evil, but only of right and wrong, as though these latter were lower states. It seemed to me that much of our discussion was of right and wrong.
Orage: Right and wrong are subject to pragmatic proof.
Brown: But in seeking for an absolute, can't we say that pragmatic judgment may come from objective understanding?
Orage: Oh no. Any result in a world that is perpetually becoming may depend on where you draw your line and say that at that point something is right or wrong; but later on this judgment may be reversed. The only center in which absolute judgments are possible is the one where we feel our absolute identityin the emotional center. Instinctive judgments are based on like and dislike; the intellect says right or wrong. They are both based on the absolute centerthe emotional. This says if the thing is good or evil.
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